international borders. that the is the economic case. these workers are filling niches in our labor market. >> paul: but they are already here. so 11 million is the estimate. why just not settle for the status quo rather than put them on a legal path and change the law? >> first of all, if they are here illegally, they are open to exploitation by employers. we don't want that. the economy has absorbed those that already here, but our economy will continue to grow, maybe not as much as we like under the current president. we will grow again and have a need for more workers. we need a legal way for them to come. >> we need skilled workers, scientists and engineers because we are not graduating enough americans but low skilled work is foreindustries like farm labor, hospitality, construction and lots of other things?